Fuck. Like I want to piss and shit and vomit and God knows what else at the same time.
[Clay] You go right through the curtain, you're on the left to get inside the stage.
[Eric] Yup.
I'm going to pass out with the excitement.
[Shirley] Well, it's so good to be back in the Metro where it all began.
The whole entire Garbage story started right here in this very venue. Thank you so much.
[Butch] Here we are in the beautiful Chicago.
[Shirley] This is the venue that I played with my first...
my band before Garbage, called Angelfish. We came and played here,
...and Steve, Duke and Butch came to check me out.
Vic Chestnutt was on the same bill and we went drinking after the show
and I managed to tip Vic Chestnutt into the street out of his wheelchair,
it was so horrific...
And it was under those circumstances that I met the boys in the band
because they were coming up the street and they saw me tip Vic out of his wheelchair
and it was a bit of hoo-hah, you can imagine... and I was mortified, because I thought,
they would never gonna want to work with someone who tips people out of wheelchairs...
[Steve] Oh my God, it's Shirley Manson!
[Duke] Hellow! Hellow!
[Butch] The most beautiful lady in here and it's totally watched out. Looks kinda like the Queer video.
[Shirley] Watch, what does this look like?
[Shirley] We then went drinking in the road bar next door here, and the we went out to some club and...
and that's where we all sort of really gelled together.
Like we knew we could go on really well as friends, and we got on like a house on fire that night.
This is just incredible, really amazing.
[Butch] A lot of where this band's started from was after we'd worked a lot of individual projects as producers.
We started doing remixes for various artists
and this sensability of bringing hip-hop and techno and punk and pop... mixing it all up...
was kind of what inspires to start the band.
[Shirley] Butch and Steve own a studio together.
[Butch] We're in Madison, Wisconsin. We're outside the fabulous Smart Studios.
Kinda looks like a crackhouse.
This is where we've done the bulk of all the Garbage records.
[Butch] Got a few, uhm, gold and platinum discs on the wall of some of the records that we've done... Got the first and the second Garbage album.
Nirvana, well, it's big one... That's a big one. That was a big one.
[TV Announcement] MTV News
[Kurt Loder] The new band called Garbage, a potentially risky name,
which features Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins producer Butch Vig, and Angelfish singer Shirley Manson, here's the story.
[Kurt Loder] This is Garbage, well, that's their name anyway,
a group of producers looking to step out into the rock spotlight.
From the Butch Vig's produced Nirvana's Nevermind album, as well as records by Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins and Soul Asylum.
[Shirley] There they are.
[Butch] So who asks questions about Nirvana? Let's get them out of the way, right now. The drummer was a hack...
[Butch] Got a few questions for you about Nirvana? [Dave Grohl] Yeah.
[Butch] Was was it like working with Chris? [Dave] Oh, Chris is great. Chris is tall, really tall.
So most... the whole time...
Usually when you work with Chris, you spend a lot of time looking up at Chris.
And having a drink with Chris... and, erm...
[Butch] Jack Daniel's I seem to remember was one of his favourites...
[Dave] He likes Jack... but now he's matured into a wine kinda sort.
[Butch] And a socially aware individual
[Dave] Yeah, a somelier of sorts. He's good.
[Kurt Loder] Guitarist Duke Erickson has worked with remixes for U2 and Nine Inch Nails
[Shirley] Here's me my buddy. [Duke] Charmies... [Shirley] Here's me my chum.
[Duke] I'm Duke, she Shirley.
[Shirley] Hahaha, you're so naughty!
[Duke] I'm a naughty boy. I'm a very hottie boy. I thought I might kick you, get out.
[Duke] Here's what we do backstage before we get all warm. I rub Shirl's tummy.
[Shirley] Awww, sweetie pea.
[Kurt Loder] As for guitarist Steve Marker, he's worked with House Of Pain, EMF and L7.
[Butch] There's Steve... Hey, Steve.
[Steve] Where's the beer store? Where's the beer store?
[Butch] Duke. [Duke] Where's the beer?
[Steve] Hi. Turn that thing off or I'll... bash it over your head. Until it's broken in little pieces.
[Butch] There's Steve doing his typical push-ups.
There's Duke doing some knee bends.
And he's... always practicing his boxing.
Go, Garbage, go!
[Daniel] Come on, Butch. Come on!
[Butch] I'm the airhead. I've been sleepwalking for the last 48 hours.
[Kurt Loder] The notion of forming Garbage occured while they were labouring over the remixes
in Vig and Marker's recording studio in Madison, Wisconsin.
[Shirley] This is the song that we released 10 years ago.
It's absolutely... unbelievale.
And, erm, this is off our first record and this is called Vow.
[Duke] Quite a few years back Butch and Steve started Smart Studios in Madison.
It'd slowly built from, like, a small 8-track, single-room studio to...
state-of-the-art studio.
[Butch] It's like a little club house, and we've done our four records here...
We usually decorate it with all sorts of things Shirley brings in.
We're just very comfortable here... it's not real big, but it's cozy and it has all the stuff we like using.
[Shirley] Butch and Duke were in a band together. And so three of them were going to meet me...
[Roxy Erickson] Butch and my Dad have always been in bands together. Since I was born.
[Duke] Here they are. In their soccer gear.
[Roxy with friend] We're sacrificing! We are doing this for the sport.
[Duke] What happened?
[Roxy] We got our butts kicked. [Friend] He sucked, that's what happened.
[Roxy] Butch lived upstairs from me all my growing up.
And they all practiced in my Mom's basement.
[Duke] Butch and I and Steve worked on a few remixes together.
We think a line between a producer and a musician is blurred, you know... In our case.
[Steve] I've always wanted to do a stuff like this.
Butch and Duke and I had been thinking it'd be cool to have a band.
To do our own music instead of working with other people all the time.
[Shirley] And they decided to form a band.
[Butch] Some of the concepts that we've tried to put in... garbage...
came out of the remixes like noise and pop and... whatever.
Except that we were looking for a singer and we wanted to find a fabulous woman... from Edinburgh...
They recruited a singer from Edinburgh, Scotland
[Butch] What happened, Shirley? [Shirley] Duke saw my passport photo.
[Butch] Let me see it.
[Shirley] It's nothing. It's pretty cool, actually.
[Shirley] Steve. The fabulous Steve Marker
...saw me on television one night on MTV. I was in a band called Angelfish from Scotland.
And it got played on MTV once... on MTV at about 1 o'clock in the morning.
And Steve happened to be watching it.
And then he... thought I would be the perfect singer for their band.
[Butch] Steve watched it and taped it luckily that night.
Like at 2 in the morning.
And then next day he said "You gotta check this out. This woman's got a great voice."
Butch and I and Steve have been friends for a long time,
and we're very lucky that we... when we met Shirley.
Because we knew immediately that we could be friends with her,
and that's how it's turned out.
[Shirley] And so they invited me to come and sing with them on one track. And I went and sang one track with them.
[Shirley] I don't feel like I'm f... [chuckles]
Fuck off!
I feel like I'm not singing, I think I'm doing half-step note instead of the whole step.
Fuck off.
[Butch] What is it saying at the bottom?
[Shirley] I feel like a real wanker, I hate being seen in the booth with my earphones on. Because it's wank.
[Butch] Why? Cos it's not kewl?
[Shirley] Cos it's not kewl. Get oot! Right.
[Butch] Right, right.
[Shirley] I look back now, I find that hard to believe that I actually did that.
Like, just packed up my things and head off... literally into the unknown.
[Shirley] It was a high-pressured scenario for me. And I was really worried... I was not up to the task.
[Shirley] I don't feel like I'm f... [chuckles] Fuck off!
I feel like I'm not singing, I think I'm doing half-step note instead of the whole step.
[Butch] Quite frankly, we were equally terrified of her. We didn't know how it was going to develop,
we were trying to feel each other... or how far we could push each other...
[Shirley] I was a bit intimidated by who they were and their abilities.
[Butch] I don't think we gave her any direction at all.
And I think when Shirley was working on some of the first tracks,
and the three of us were sitting around and drinking beer, wondering what should we do? What should we tell her?
Now it's the exact opposite I think, the people would think three producers would be telling somebody, but...
Luckily, it's, er, it all worked out.
[Shirley] Remember those days, Duke? [Duke] Yeah.
[Shirley] We liked each other and we just come together... [Duke] Good times... [Shirley] Good times, yeah.
[Shirley] We ended up hanging out together a lot and we ended becoming a band by default.
[Shirley] Well, that's an amazing thing about Garbage is actually when we did meet for the first time, we found out we liked a lot the same bands, The Clash...
[Shirley] ...and, erm, Siouxie And The Banshees, and The Pretenders, and Roxy Music
[Butch] Seven!
[Roxy Erickson] They named me Roxy. [Reporter] Yeah, exactly.
No, I mean, the band named me Roxy. My Mom named me Stephanie.
The band named me Roxy. That won one.
[Reporter] So that wasn't Garbage, that was earlier band, right? [Roxy] Yes. Spooner.
[Steve] We just all had this need to take all these ideas, that off-ways we've been storing up for years and years...
Through a series of unsuccessful bands, and thinking take these things that we wanted to do, and sort of finally make a record that sounded the way we wanted it to.
Beyond that, there really wasn't much of a plan. Because you never know how things are gonna turn out when you throw the record out.
[Butch] Once we actually sat down with the songs, we realised that there's something... something special going on.
[Butch] So, Shirley... What's the future of the Angelfish whole band?
[Shirley] No way. We'll see. I don't know.
[Kurt Loder] Garbage the band hitting the road next month. That's the news for now, we'll be back with more later here on MTV.
[Shirley] Anyway, it's a big deal for us to be here, Minneapolis, cos this is where our band began, 10 years ago.
It was a very sweet show for us here...
[Shirley] I don't know how many people are here tonight that came to our first show here. 7th Street entry...
[Shirley] Well, this is 1st Street entry in Minneapolis.
And it's conjoined with 7th Street entry,
which was where Garbage played the first ever show. Ever. Point blank.
[Shirley] I don't know if you've heard the story, but I'm gonna bore you with it anyway, cos this is the our favourite Garbage story.
[Shirley] We drove up to play our first show, and there was tons of people lining up to get into the show.
[Shirley] We came outside this venue, and were like, fucking hell...
[Shirley] And we got super excited, and we were like, oh my God, we must be so famous!
And then it turned out that in fact all the people that were waiting to get into the club, we waiting to get in here to see GWAR play.
And we played for a handful of people in the end, in the small club down the stairs.
[Shirley] Anyway, it was a complete fucking train-wreck, it was a terrible show, thank God none of you were there. Or there was very few of you there.
[Shirley] That was our auspicious beginnings.
[Shirley] We never set out to be in the charts.
And the fact that we became very successful in the commercial sense, was a great surprise to us.
It was wonderful,
but at the same time I think we feel,
that it's not a barometer of our success as musicians.
It has no beat on our creativity.
And I think that we feel that we are a very unique band.
And we do things very differently from everybody.
The band's self-titled debut album would go on to sell four million copies worldwide.
The reaction we've had from our fanbase has been incredible. It's exceeded all our expectations, totally blew us away.
[Shirley] This is really amazing, a great idea.
[Duke] That's me right there.
[Butch] We're documenting this. There's Duke. What is this, ehm?
[Duke] Spin.
[Butch] Oh. Is it a good article? Is it down the the scoop, or...?
[Shirley] I'm just reading this. [Butch] Well, thanks for bringing us a copy.
[Daniel] It's good, you know. [Butch] Ohh, scary-looking photo.
Sorry, we've been waiting for this to come out for a long time. We wanted to see if Dennis has written horrible things about us.
So there are nice things about us, please excuse me.
[Shirley] Ooh, that's me! [Butch] Hey, really Shirley. Let me see that again.
[Duke] There's a cartoon of Shirley. [Butch] Let me see that again, Shirl. God, it's an amazing likeness.
[Duke] Whoa! Marker! [Butch] It's Garbage day every day!
[Butch] There's lovely Shirley Manson, rushed in few moments before her fabulous photo shoot for the cover of Melody Maker.
[Shirley] Shut up. I'm postering.
[Duke] We went on tour for year and a half, and played almost every night, and lived in a bus together. You know, we got to know each other pretty well.
[Duke] Morning, Butch.
That's 2:30 in the afternoon, and Butcher is just rolling out of bed.
[Butch] That's right.
[Duke] Butch. [Daniel] Butch.
[Butch] We're getting everybody today coming in, Shirl so everybody gets the camera.
[Butch] You get sights for the show? [Shirley] Please, don't. Please don't film less.
[Butch] Hey, Shirley. Ready for the big gig?
[Steve] Here we are, heading into the big gig. And we wonder, Cincinatti, or...
[Butch] Cincinatti. [Steve] ...or Ohio somewhere.
[Butch] Oh, yeah. [Shirley] Don't film it. [Duke] Looks like a little animal from the bottom of the ocean.
[Butch] Here's Shirley's fabulous tongue.
[Shirley] I feel very much that we are a... a really close band... [Duke] We get along pretty well.
[Duke] Happy Easter greeting to all of my fans.
[Duke] Bizzarre, bizzarre... [Butch] Oh, bizzarre, bizzarre...
[Shirley] Bizzarre... Shut the fuck up!
[Daniel] It's gonna be exciting... [Shirley] Why? They're gonna be good.
[Butch] Hi, Shirley.
[Woman] This is just the parking lot. [Butch] This is the right building? [Man] No, it's not.
[Duke] Good. Rock'n'roll! Right! What? Wrong place. What?
We came to the wrong place. Rock'n'roll!
[Butch] Uh-huh. This is our dressing room in Glasgow.
[Shirley] My hair. It looked so horrible on Top of the Pops! It was so horrid...
[Butch] I think you should wear it out for the encore. [Shirley] I think you're right. I think I will.
[Butch] That'd be cool. [Shirl] Just smash it to bits. [Butch] And you can... You don't have to run right out before we do, so...
[Daniel] One, two, three, four, here we go!
[Shirley] Are they showing in?
[Cameraman] Yeah, you might wanna go out and stall them and... chit-chat.
[Daniel] How long? We'll be there in a minute.
[Shirley] Fabulous. Okay.
[Cameraman] Yes! Okay. That's lovely.
[Kurt Loder] Remarkable band Garbage, who released a new video this week, a relentlessly strange one, for song called Push It, off the group's second album, Version 2.0, which is due out on May, 12th.
The album's recorded in Madison, Wisconsin, which is home for three fourth of the band, and we paid a visit to them there not long ago.
[Kurt Loder] You can't say success hasn't changed this band, over the course of the concert-packed year that Garbage spent touring in support of their multi-platinum debut album.
The group evolved from a collective of studio shut-ins into a hot live act. And that stage-fuelled dynamism subsequently fed into recording of their new album, Version 2.0.
[Butch] Version 2.0 I think has more organic sound, I think it sounds like a band playing live together, that stems from us touring all last year.
We came off the road, and we are pretty fried from the tour in '96 And everybody kept saying, oh, you had a great tour, and your next record is gonna be amazing - we had't even written anything...
And once we kinda got there, and the chilly came over, we totally isolated ourselves.
[Duke] I guess any band, that, you know, sells as many records as we did, develops a fanbase and feels certain amount of pressure.
[Duke] That's one of the good things about living in Madison. Doing it here.
We're not surrounded by the music biz. We're not overwhelmed by it every day. And tempted to go out every night.
[Butch] Well, we're still tempted to go there. [Duke] Yeah.
[Butch] The Cafe Momo is Garbage official party headquarters. Has been for ten years. We wrote many songs in the Cafe Momo.
[Camerman] Really? What songs? [Butch] I don't remember. We had too many cocktails.
[Duke] This is where we got to know Shirley. Here.
Cos we went to the studio, and it was so intense... And we didn't... She didn't know us and we didn't know her,
and so we came in to the cafe, and just started drinking.
I think that drink of that time was called Gin Daisy.
So we started drinking Gin Daisies, and it's amazing how quick you get to know somebody when you've had three Gin Daisies.
[Jay Morgan] I think they've had this rather large, outstanding tab here.
From Version 2.0 which, I think, having this party is the way of, like a payback the tab.
Cos they owe significant amount of money, with interest, it's five-six figures.
[Duke] This is one of my best butts, stick then I just go like this. My best butts
[Friend] Like a mark, when you've had too much?
[Duke] The cafe, is a, is a, as far as we're concerned, it's, it's our home away from the studio.
[Butch] Well, some of the... Push It and Paranoid both had over 120 tracks.
And that could be anything from vocal overdubs to guitar layers, to loops and sound effects and noise.
[Butch] And for us, when we actually got to mixing the album, when the songs take focus...
[Butch] This is Trident Air Range, an old analogue recording console.
And it came out of Trident and went to Cherokee and a lot of classic records were done on it.
Like Hotel California, Bowie, T Rex, Led Zeppelin...
I mean, they only made thirteen of them, ever and this is the number thirteen. It's three-switch soundboard.
[Butch] So this is Studio B we set up for Shirls . Basically, this set it up for her to do vocals, and we do guitar overdubs here.
[Butch] Right before Christmas Shirley put her foot down and told the three of us, "That's it, you have to start mixing.
I'm not gonna let you twiddle around in the studio anymore". Which is what we had been doing for months, just coming day after day...
[Shirley] Noodle, noodle, noodle!
[Duke] It's not hard to understand Shirley, because obviously we live in there,
and she's away from home, she's away from home for the whole year
while we're making the record, and years before that,
since the whole Garbage thing started to sell.
She got a little fed up with us messing around in the studio, and constantly we were adding tracks,
we'd still be there if she hadn't put her foot on it.
[Butch] We actually sampled to get from "Don't worry baby" by The Beach Boys for Push It.
We wanted to use that as a sample of song, cos it's one of the Shirley's lyrics,
"Don't worry baby" - that's gonna be too much of a hassle,
so we re-did that Shirley sang all her parts herself, and just because we didn't want to get trouble legally, we sent it to Brian Wilson,
and it turns out that he love the song, love the part.
[Duke] I was hoping, seriously...
one of the things I was excited about... hearing Brian Wilson play...
[Butch] Brian Wilson? [Cameraman] Yeah, I was told not to shoot him though.
[Butch] Hey, you can shoot over our heads, I mean, if you interview us.
Here's the Garbage interview, and we're actually shooting Brian Wilson...
[Duke] Brian Wilson is right behind us. Musical... musical God. [Butch] Musical genius.
[Duke] I wanted to go and say hello, but I probably shouldn't.
[Butch] Brian Wilson's on stage and Duke and I just went up on stage, I wanted to go check my drumkit,
and one of his gutarists used to record at Smart Studios, he actually opened for Duke and I when were playing with Spooner in Chicago
and he came up saying hey, and then Brian came up and shook our hands, and we said, "Brian, do you remember?
On our second album, Version 2.0 we called you up, cos we... Shirley sings "Don't worry baby"
it's an interpolation of your Beach Boys' song", and he smiled - nice to meet you.
[Butch] This is where we end up spending most of the time, this is, this is where we have...
We use Pro Tools up here.
We mixed all four records in this room. I know it's kind of unassuming, but it's our headquarters.
[Butch] All four of us make production and mix decisions, but I have a tendency to get in there and tweak stuff by the most powerful mixing...
But that's a time-consuming process, too. You know, if it's a dense song, it'll take us three or four days.
[Duke] We were basically in the studio for at least 12 hours a day for a year.
[Butch] They can go through quite a long rollercoaster ride and we're on and off different sorts of tensions,
and at some point we have to focus, and sort through all the chaos
and you have to have a song that's gonna work, and, erm, that's why it takes us a long time to mix.
[Butch] It took us a year to make, but I think being in that environment was very helpful and healthy.
[Steve] We've been a band for about 4.5 years and we just got our second record out.
[Shirley] We brought out our new album, and we kept on thinking , there's now way anybody else is gonna ever remember who we are.
[Shirley] We brought out our new album, and all our fans bought it, we went #1 in the UK...
And we wanna thank our fans, because you didn't forget us and you're absolutely amazing and you completely made our year.
[Shirley] The reaction we've had has been incredible. And we've sold over 2 million records, you know, in 4 months.
And I think anything from this moment on is like an extra, you know, treat.
[Butch] Each record takes us about a year in the studio, and then we went these really long, gruelling tours.
And we've done non-stop since '94, '95...
[Steve] We toured for a very long time.
[Duke] After Version 2.0 we toured for two years.
So, yeah... it's just a Garbage cycle, you know, it's just the way we do things.
[Butch] We're in Dallas, here's the first leg of the US tour. [Shirley] I can't undershtand a-word you shayin'.
[Butch] Aw, here comes Steve. [Shirley] Uh-oh, pscycho lair.
[Steve] Whaddya mean, whaddya mean, I'm not a psycho!
[Butch] The last tour we had here in 1996 was probably one of the best runs we had as a band,
I mean all of the show were great, and we're looking forward to this entire run.
[Butch] That's Shirley in Dallas. Hi, Shirley. How you're doing, fine?
[Duke] Speak!
[Shirley] Get lost.
[Duke] There's Shirley in her fishnets keeping up on her fanmail.
[Duke] Shirley.
[Butch] Oh, we might be able to do laundry tomorrow though. [Daniel] Is that true? Close her down, right?
[Butch] There might be a big day in London. Laundry!
[Steve] Woo! [Duke] That's exciting.
[Butch] Shoot the footage, Shirl. [Shirley] OK, hold up, this is it.
[Butch] I'm gonna hand the camera over to Shirley Manson, I have my... this is my shloppy outfit, and here's nice... as you can see, it's very nice.
Here's the glamourous... here's the glamourous "we're on tour".
It's a very incredible tour bus.
And I'm going to very shortly hand you your bag, and you open it up and see all the little treats I bought you.
Here, let me shoot you, come on.
[Butch] Here is Shirley in her shloppy outfuit.
Oh it's so cute.
Alright now, here,
I went to the store and bought some stuff.
I got on my bunk, let's check it out. it's super low-fat... Alright, you open it up and...
You go and open it up... and totally tell me what you've found.
Aww, Smartfood...
Uh-huh, some KC Materpiece... mmm, that's always a treat.
Some white cheddar, something rather... mini popcorn things. OK
Ahh, the Selection de Choix. OK, all Francais.
Some water.
Oh yeah, let's get them really close, where are they?
[Shirley] Ferrero Rocher.
[Butch] There we go. Man, the focus is good here.
And oh, here's some gum, m-hm.
Is that it? And some more gum, OK.
[Shirley] That's all.
[Butch] Is that your due approval? Looks like you did it... [Shirley] Good choice.
[Butch] There's Shirley Ann.
There's Mr. Schulman.
There is the Dukester.
There we go, looking at the downtown St. Petersburg.
[Daniel] Shirley's our sugar mama.
[Shirley] Darlings.
Now you know why I got the job in the first place.
[Duke] Aaaah. Pleased to meetcha!
[Butch] Here we are in Madrid. There's our plane, just landed.
[Butch] Downtown Palace Hotel in Madrid.
This is Michael Jackson's family hotel. We're here doing press.
[Shirley] We've been, uh, touring Europe for the past three months. Erm, playing certain festival such as this.
[Butch] Done a lot of festivals over the years. Especially in Europe.
[Duke] The entire summer we're gonna be doing a lot of this kind of stuff.
[Butch] We played some big ones in our last tour that were 60-70 thousand people, and we've played Reading.
[Shirley] We're very honoured and thrilled to be here in Reading.
[Butch] These were the great shows. They've all been really good,
each festival's really different, and fans all sorts of react in their own way.
I mean, the cool thing is even going to some of the countries where they don't speak English,
there's still people who would sing along to the songs, and it just kinds of blows our minds.
[Duke] The festivals, I mean, it's... it's a strange feeling to walk in here and play in front of this huge crowd...
The stages are huge, and people are 30 feet away. And there's... you know, a sea of people out there.
[Butch] They can be very chaotic, but I think, just having done them enough... and our crews are usually pretty good at making sure everything works
[Duke] That's a pretty heavy experience, I mean, it's a whole different... it's like... the crowd becomes this huge, kind of... animal.
[Duke] Fantastic.
[Butch] Garbage! [Duke] We found our first stage...
[Butch] There's the garbage crew around here, they look tired.
[Duke] A lot of people don't make it.
Lot of people come to Glastobury, and they're never seen again.
The same problem every year, they don't know what to do with the bodies.
So they stackle theim in the area, in those trees.
'Course it attracts vultures.
[Cameraman] Are you serious?
[Duke] Well, if you'd believe me, then I'd just go with that.
[Shirley] Isn't it fantastic? Can you believe what it's like to grow up in Scotland, this tiny little island,
and dream about being, I don't know,
I don't know, what I dreamt to be, maybe a shop assistant at best...
And in all of a sudden to find yourself standing in Wembley arena.
Have you any idea what it feels like?
[Shirley] Well, we've got a new single coming out for the new Bond film called The World Is Not Enough.
[Shirley] And then we're going to release a b-sides compilation in the new year. And then we're gonna start working on a new album.
[Shirley] We've developed a sense of independence, in a way, on the last tour.
And I think the confidence that we've got from going into really strange countries and playing to a crowd, managing to win them over,
when some of them had never even heard of us before, was sort of a phenomenal experience.
And then we played more shows I think, more than almost any band out there.
[Duke] In history.
[Shirley] In history of the world.
[Butch] The longest tour in the world.
[Butch] Going to the studio making Version 2.0 and then, going back on tour for 20 months, and you know, playing too 270 shows in over 30 countries,
it was, really, I think, the catalyst that sort of gave us an unbelieveable amount of confidence, when we started beautifulgarbage.
[Butch] We're gonna gear up for a big world tour starting in January and will be coming back to Europe.
And actually, we're gonna go everywhere with this tour, so...
We'll be out probably all next year touring for beautifulgarbage.
[Steve] When you're touring, you're living in a... very confined space in a bus, or travelling with everybody. You see everybody all the time...
[Butch] I just want you to know, this is what happens when girls are everywhere with you in their makeup.
And the director likes it. There's nothing I can do about it now.
[Duke] This is Shirley Manson getting ready to go out and meet her public.
[Steve] Come in here.
[Shirley] Oh, that's horrible.
[Duke] Hello!
[Butch] Who's there on it?
[Shirley] East German standard basic color.
[Butch] Oh, wow. Shirley. Where are we going, kids?
[Steve] Nowhere, really.
[Butch] We're we going here? One?
[Woman] One? I pushed one.
[Shirley] All these cool stamps in there.
[Duke] Push the Amsterdam.
[Butch] Go. It's not going.
[Duke] Maybe we should call for help.
[Butch] Come on here, you bastard. Let's go.
[Woman] Let's go the escalator.
[Shirey] Up.
[Duke] I'm getting scared.
[Butch] All right, this is not working. Okay, here we are to the elevator. Let's go. Back that way.
[Butch] It's like we're married, odd couple in a way, cos we've been in each other's space for so long.
[Duke] We've never had big expectations. And certainly, after the experience of the last record, had even lower expectations.
[Interviewer] Wasn't that the last record did come out a bad timing?
[Duke] Oh, absolutely. I mean, it was kind of a strange record.
You know, it was kind of all over the place, musically and stylistically.
[Butch] beautifulgarbage was much more of a studio experiment.
[Duke] I think with this record we put much more time in studying each individual track.
[Shirley] You can hear that on the record. The songs kind of birth themselves.
[Duke] Instead of 20 different things filling a space we have 4 different things filling this space.
[Butch] I think that's one of the biggest differences between beautifulgarbage and the earlier stuff, that this record is much simpler.
But there are lots of bitching guitar riffs again left on the cutting room floor.
[Duke] But it was, you know, what we tried to do and.. there's uhm...
few things that went around with that record.
I mean, 9/11 for instance
you know, it put a perspective that our little punk record was nothing compared to that.
And we were totally aware of that.
[Duke] So we kind of soldiered on.
[Steve] I think we just went too far and too on, and Shirley started having trouble with her voice.
And Butch got, uhm, sick and he had to go home for a while, and...
That was king of a beginning of some of our troubles.
[Butch] I was out of action for a couple of months and Matt Walker filled in for me.
[Butch] And on the last tour when I got sick twice and someone had to fill in for me, I sort of realised that you really do have to you know, just try to watch out for yorself.
And take a lot of vitamins... I'm taking a lot of vitamins now.
[Radio host] How's your voice, Shirley?
[Shirley] My voice is good, I mean I got really frightened when I lost it.
[Radio host] You had a little, err a little throat surgery or something? What have you done?
[Shirley] Yeah. I had a cyst removed from my vocal chord. I've just seen all the panitings hanging up on the wall here... My God!
[Radio host] We'll get to that way. So you had a cyst removed?
[Shirley] Yeah. From my right vocal chord. But everything's fine now.
[Butch] How are you doing, Shirley?
[Shirley] Not bad. I've got a sore throat though, and I'm beginning to freak out. I feel like I've got laryngitis again.
[Butch] We're here in Moscow, taking a little stroll through the park near the Kremlin and the Red Square.
How amazing is this! It's huge.
[Duke] Just to say that to play in Moscow is... unbelieveable. Just to be here is unbelieveable.
[Shirley] The last time I was here in Russia I could barely...like, it was when I had my throat problems, and it was very worsed
And I wanted to cancel the shows and everyone was like, you cannot cancel Russia, you just can't do that.
So I came here, I was sore then, and I feel sore again.
It's horrible, being a singer. Because, if I was an athlete, see, if I was Tim Duncan, oh, if only,
if I was Tim Duncan, and I broke my arm, everyone would be, oh my God, it's really tough,
but when you've a sore throat, everyone's like, oh, yeah, whatever. Shut up, you'll be fine.
[Shirley] I want to say something special tonight, cos there's a special person in the audience here.
Her name is Rosemary, and she's gonna just die of humiliation I'm even mentioning her name.
[Radio host] But I mean, was it... if before that, did you just sound probably garbled?
Like I'm trying to figure out what that would even be like?
[Shirley] Erm, no, I just started losing my voice. We were on tour with No Doubt.
[Shirley] I think it was 2.5 years ago with No Doubt. And I lost my voice. And Gwen Stefani very kindly sent me to her vocal specialist here in Philadelphia.
And I meat Rosemary there, and she took the greatest care of me,
and just nursed me through losing my voice which, you know, for a professional singer is absolutely terrifying.
And it was a complete ordeal, and she just showed great kindness to a complete stranger so she's here tonight,
I don't know where she is, but I'm sending...
There you are!
So my love to you Rosemary, always thank you so much for giving me my life back.
[Steve] And then we went right into recording this new record, and uhm, maybe it was just a little too soon.
[Butch] We just didn't have a lot of energy and.. or a good vibe between us and just struggled.
[Shirley] We didn't fight. We just didn't speak to one another. It was a little like this.
[Duke] It was just a ridiculous, kind of you know... communication break-down.
[Butch] We will probably get sick of talking about it at this point, because it's well documented at this point, but it wasn't really traumatic album to make.
[Shirley] We've been together now for 10 years, since we've done our fourth record, and when we came to studio to make this record, we just thought we were exhausted with one another,
and we weren't getting along very well, not because we don't like each other, but just for a variety of different reasons.
[Radio host] I heard that the band almost broke up, is this true, or is this not true?
[Butch] Well, we.. we kind of bottomed down in 2003, and it... I don't think we knew how burnt out we were.
[Radio host] Does Garbage ever get to be too many cooks in the kitchen?
[Duke] Yes. Always.
[Radio host] Duke goes fast, you jump on now.
[Butch] I disagree. We just sort of figured out our problems on our own, I mean we couldn't afford the $40.000-a-month therapist.
[Butch] It sort of spiraled into a black hole, and in October 2003 we just decided to take a hiatus and clear our heads.
[Steve] We decided that we did needed a little break from one another we just had been too much...
too much time together was spent, I think.
And... So we took a little time off, and for a while we didn't even know if we were gonna continue as a band,
because we had been doing in for 10 years, and, er, we thought - maybe, well, that's long enough.
Most bands don't last that long anyway.
[Shirley] I mean, I was on the phone to my Mom crying, you know - "I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life, Mom".
[Host] Where's your Mom right now?
[Shirley] My Mom's in Scotland.
[Host] You still stay close to them, apparently?
[Shirley] Yeah, yeah, definitely
[Radio host] And then when you were not doing Garbage, uh, what did you do?
[Duke] Er, that's a good question.
[Shirley] I mean, er, I was really doing very little... I was watching TV, or going to the movies, reading, watching basketball... And that was about it.
[Host] You're a hoops fan?
[Shirley] Huge hoops fan. Really
[Host] Really? Any teams?
[Shirley] I'm in love with Timothy Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs. Literally, I mean... Just seeing his name makes my knees go weak.
[Radio host] What is it about Tim Duncan that you love so much?
[Shirley] I just love that he's always so... unflappable, it's just he's always cool.
Like, it doesn't matter what's happening, he keeps his shit together, and I really love that.
[Shirley] I know this is a big basketball time, so you must forgive me,
but I have a huge, huge thing for Timothy Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs.
[Shirley] Weird. I don't know why I love him so much, I think, it's cos I grew up in Scotland, and we don't have that sport, and we don't have athletes that look like that.
[Steve] When we took the time off, I think we all realised that... how important Garbage was to each of us, and how much...
how many cool things we had accomplished as a band.
[Butch] Sometimes you hit a wall and you gotta figure out how to get through to the other side...
[Shirley] Yeah, there was... there were some dark moments. you know, but, er... we, we got it together.
[Steve] We sort of felt we're connected to... what we wanted what we felt like... we could make a really great record, and we just sat to figure out how to do that.
[Butch] Maybe a bottom, you know, it was good because we got back in the studio in 2004, there was a whole new vitality to the tracks
I mean, we sort of raised the bar in terms of playing and the feel we wanted to capture more the sound of a live show.
[Duke] We kind of turned gone from being a band who tries to figure out how to play things live on stage
so we concoct in the studio, and now we try to bring a live sound into the studio.
[Butch] Luckily when we got back together it was a complete, a 180 degree difference.
[Shirley] Thank you so much! You've been amazing!
[Shirley] This really is a very special night for Garbage. This is the first day we've played in 2.5 years in America.
[Butch] It could be a long tour, you know. Six months ago Duke and I were like, we weren't even sure we wanted to go on tour again. The whole band was that way.
[Butch] And it's amazing, how when you finish something, you feel good about it, you wanna go out and share that, you know. Share your music with your audience.
[Shirley] Thank you for making this evening very special for us. We are, of course, Garbage.
[Butch] It's good doing this where we meet our hardcore fans because they're just super-pumped.
[Steve] Actually, I've been trying my end to do less,
less things and less samples and distraughts, I think we're going for a cleaner sound.
[Butch] We're in Boston, and we're gonna play Metal Heart today, and we're gonna play Run Baby Run.
[Host] Sold out show tonight, it's Garbage at the Tabernacle, welcome to Atlanta.
[Butch] Thank you very much.
[Butch] Where were we? We were in Atlanta...
[Man] This is our third gig, man, we're so glad you came to see us.
[Shirley] Oh, I love it. Thank you, sweetie. That's fucking fantastic.
[Butch] We got to #3 in the North American tour.
[Shirley] This is just us really starting now, you know.
[Host] My congratulations, Bleed Like Me three days old now.
What song would you guys like to hear? Cos this is your paygold.
[Butch] Let's hear... we've got track Bad Boyfriend.
[Butch] Let's hear some rock.
[Host] Bad Boyfriend from Garbage.
[Steve] It's been really great, cos we've been, er, like loosening up with...
We know the songs now and we don't have to think about what we're doing so much.
[Cameraman] How did the first shows were to you, guys? How do you summon it all up?
[Duke] Flawless. Perfect
[Butch] Absolute perfection.
[Duke] Yeah, I mean, it's... it's great playing with Eric, too, cos Eric really gives us a... push.
[Shirley] You may have noticed that we now have a new bass player. And his name is Eric Avery, ladies and gentlemen.
[Eric] Oh, it's a lot of fun. It's really cool music to play live.
[Butch] I remember, Duke, we went and saw Jane's Addiction at El Tejo
and we walked next door in Madison to this college pub called The Plaza
and I remember, as they walked it it was like deer in the headlights cos they all had turbans on
and they came in and looked arond The Plaza, for about thirty seconds, turned around and walked out
they realised it was probably place they could get beat up in.
[Shirley] And now I'm gonna change my fucking shoes, because I can't do it properly in high heels.
They may not look as good, but it feels so much better.
[Butch] Coolest thing is the crowds have been so supportive.
[Duke] Given how hard this record was to make, uhm, they are... as excited as we are, that we actually got the damn thing done.
[Duke] It's a gorgeous days in the New York City today.
[Shirley] I love New York City. It's one of my favourite cities in the world.
[Duke] A lot of promotional appearances today.
This is where we're asked questions pertaining to the new record, and... We give the meaningful answers.
[Shirley] Oh, no, we don't have to wear these, do we?
[Butch] That is scary. A crazy likeness, don't you think?
[Shirley] Show this to me.
[Duke] I would not let this guy in the building.
[Woman] Psycho.
[Butch] It's like a horror film.
I'm gonna keep mine, cos this is weird-looking.
[Radio host] The band Garbage has joined us. Butch, Duke, Steve and...
oh, what that's girl's name, I always forget... Oh, it's Shirley?
How's this for a good story? The production guy came in right before the interview, he walked in, and he said -
"You might wanna turn the delay on, because Shirley is gonna pipe out".
He didn't mention any of you, gentlemen, he mentioned you.
[Butch] Aren't you in best behaviour today, so far...
[Shirley] I am. I've been very good, I haven't said one thing bad or sweaty.
[Radio host] Well, I'll turn that delay on, just in case...
[Shirley] Okay. Fuck, piss, wank!
[Radio host] Aw, what are you doing, come on! I can lose my license. What is she doing?
[Shirley] I thought you were joking!
[Radio host] No! Don't do it again. Because it takes...
[Duke] I like they way you guys both jumpled like that. You both have jumped a little button there or something...
[Radio host] No! Don't do it again.
[Butch] We're in the New York City, getting our butts strained all over the town, doing the press, but it's good because they wanna talk to us.
[Woman] Thank you so much for coming.
[Shirley] You're very welcome. Thanks for having us.
[Butch] I like the feel of the brush on the skin. It feels nice. We're going for a heavy goth-look.
[Duke] Thank you so much.
[Woman] You're very welcome.
[Host] How do you feel?
[Shirley] Like we had some resurrection. That's how it feels.
[Radio host] I gotta give the obligatory congratulations, of course when someone puts out an album, I always think that's an incredible feat.
And I understand it's gonna like a debut in the Top 5
[Shirley] Yeah.
[Radio host] Which is pretty cool.
[Man] I think you guys have a great shot at Top 5, which is awesome.
[Butch] Yeah. [Shirley] Yeah, it's amazing
[Shirley] Somebody just said that we were gonna go on Top 5, he thinks. It's like, really exciting.
[Shirley] It's a great day for Garbage, cos we went and had our first Top 5 hit in America.
Thank you to our fans! It's unbelieveable, you've made a dream come true.
[Butch] We're winning #4 this week, motherfuckers.
[Man] #4, that's all so good.
[Shirley] Thank you so much, New York!
[Shirley] Let's go!
[Butch] Ready to go?
[Shirley] This is our last song of the evening, at this is called Right Between The Eyes.
[Butch] It's the biggest debut we ever had here in the US, it's fantastic.
I mean, #4 it's so cool, ma'am. It's a testament to our hardcore Garbage fans.
I mean, everybody went out, you know, we thought we'd disappeared but luckily they didn't think we'd disappeared.
[Butch] Yeah, we just landed in Moscow.
[Shirley] Yeah, I say "Moscow", and the boys say "Moscaw".
[Butch] We're in Moscow, baby.
[Shirley] Mascaw.
[Shirley] Everytime I hear 'Moscaw" it's always St. John to me. Moscow.
[Clay] Moscow, is it pronounced "mos-kaw" or "mos-kow"?
[Translator] The Russian name is "Moskva"
[Butch] Moskva.
[Translator] In Russian - "Moskva"
[Butch] Moskva. Here we are in Moskva.
[Butch] We're having a shot of vodka.
[Shirley] Good idea.
[Butch] This is a shot of the Russian national "Standard", it's good, and it's cheap.
That's what the russkies drink, so when in Moscow - do as the russkies do.
[Duke] Cheers.
[Butch] What do you say, what is a "salut" in Russia?
[Nikita] Salut?
[Butch] When you do, like er, toast?
[Nikita] Toast. Na zdorovie.
[Butch] Na zdorovie?
[Nikita] Yeah.
[Butch] Na zdorovie. [Duke] Okay, na zdorovie.
[Shirley] So where are we now, we're in a delicious Mercedes on our way to dinner... Life is good!
[Butch] We're in a tunnel underneath the highway from the hotel and Red Square and there's always these little bootleg shops.
[Nikita] You've been to Gorbushka, the market?
[Shirley] Yes, yes, we were there today.
[Eric] It's a, it's total bootleg, illegal... Russian, underground.
Literally underground, like we're below street level right now.
[Butch] You like, have the Garbage CD's? Garbage? You see?
Check it out. Cool. Totally... totally bootleg
[Taylor] Right.
[Butch] All four records, I think. This is good. Let's get it.
[Butch] Yes, I'm in Garbage, I have to get one for my collection.
[Butch] I bought a Garbage bootleg today... for a 70 rubles which is a $1 or, or $2.10.
All four records, b-sides, and The World Is Not Enough.
[Shirley] No shit. Sweet.
[Duke] Where can I get one of those?
[Butch] Go under the...
[Duke] I don't even have the four records I would like to have it. For collection.
[Shirley] I don't either.
[Butch] That's, er... Eric Avery and Taylor from the Foo Fighters'.
[Butch] Okay guys, give me the thumbs up on the Lenin's tomb.
[Eric] Lenin's tomb.
[Taylor] Not John Lennon.
Whose [...] would you rather do, Stalin's or Lenin's?
[Eric] It depends...
[Taylor] I would go with Stalin's...
[Eric] It depends if you're making out with a chick - definitely Stalin.
[Taylor] Stalin's one of them make-a-breakfast-with-your-girl- on-a-Sunday-morning type thing.
[Eric] Yeah, you know. If you're going out drinking with the boys - Lenin.
[Shirley] I'm ordering my sushi for tonight. It's a very serious operation. I've sushi practically every day. Yeah.
It's developed into a sad and sorry obsession.
I take great seafood extract to counter the parasites that might lurk in my intestines.
Oh, Eric, what's the name of that horrible leaf I don't like?
[Eric] Cheeso.
[Shirley] Cheeso.
[Shirley] I think... I think my voice is holding up for the most part, but I'm just... I'm... I'm neurotic that I'm gonna get ill again,
because, uhm... cos I usually do.
So I'm just being super-careful and try to use hands sanitizer
when I'm touching stuff like this, cos it's filthy, and I'm probably likely to get diseased.
[Shirley] That's all been worn, that's my jacket from the Run Baby Run video...
Oh, more importantly, excuse me - here's the Spurs' shirt that I wore in Paris.
That's... what is that?
Oh, that's my moleskin coat that I wore for the MTV Movie Awards. No, MTV Video Awards.
Oh, this is my special Navy Seal jacket I was given...
that's my name on it.
Here's the T-shirts in case I'm in festival situations, when I need sun coverage
And here's my favourite dress, I wear this all the time, I don't want to wear anything else.
But I know people get bored, if I don't change my clothing.
This is my lucky dress it's good on the gigs under stress.
[Shirley] This is just CD's and shit.
Shoes. Shoes.
Tights.
Beauty products.
And... drugs. Legal drugs.
In bags and things. What's in here?
Oh, free hair products.
Join a band, girls - you get lots of free make-up.
[Butch] I've lost 12 pounds in 6 weeks.
And it's all due to the Butch Vig rock'n'roll and Garbage diet.
All you gotta do is play 5 nights a week...
75 minutes a night, and just thrash unreal on the drums...
... and you will lose 12 pounds in 6 weeks. You can eat and drink whatever you want, too, I might add.
Power Aid with a splash of vodka.
Actually it doesn't taste particularly good, but it does the job. I catch a slight buzz and rehydrate.
[Butch] The main thing is you gotta put up a 100% when you're on the drum kit.
[Butch] And, er, it works - Power Aid you do have to join a rock band, you can't do that on your own.
You gotta have the vibe every night. But trust me - it works.
[Butch] We are in Motor City, USA, Detroit, Michigan.
[Butch] We're friends with Jack White, I think he's hanging with Shirley upstairs, he's here tonight.
[Cameraman] If you would, uh, go on stage and play with Garbage, what sond would it be? Any song?
[Jack] What's that song that goes pom-pom-pom-pom?
[Shirley] This is called Cherry Lips.
[Jack] What's that one like? That's er, that's the best song ever.
[Jack] We almost did do it with them one time, I got scared though.
[Cameraman] Oh, really? Alright, then, thanks a lot, Jack.
[Jack] Alright.
[Jack] Thank you very much.
[Shirley] You're welcome.
[Cameraman] What's that?
[Jack] She's got a shortbread. One Scot to another.
[Cameraman] Awesome.
[Jack] If I were to sing one song by Garbage, it would be Cherry Lips.
Go baby go, go! Oh yeah, we're right behind you.
[Shirley] Oh, I see a Scottish flag! I see my people are here among the Detroitians.
[Shirley] Yes. Thanks. [Man] You have a great night. [Shirley] Yeah, you too.
[Shirley] Steve-o, are you all right with Run Baby Run instead of Cherry Lips tonight?
[Shirley] Are you all right with Run Baby Run instead of Cherry Lips tonight?
[Butch] Yeah. All new ones in there.
[Shirley] All new ones.
[Billy] Yeah, it's great, I mean, I've been working with them for almost 10 years now. So, it's a full-time gig for a long time.
[Clay] Oh, this is the best band ever. I mean, seriously, you know, you work, you know, for people in the industry for 10 years, and you see everything.
And these guys... these guys are great...
[Shirley] We try our best to do a good show for you. We'll see what we can do.
[Clay] You couldn't work for a better understanding, better caring bunch of people who seriously, you know...
care about the crew, so... they're fantastic.
[Fan] That was a great show.
[Steve] Thank you. You guys were great.
[Shirley] You, we go and play these shows, they're sold out in minutes, these all our hardcore fans, they know all songs.
[Shirley] And, you know, I've been gigging since I was 15 years old, so, you know, that's a shitload of time, you know.
I've been doing this for 20 years, playing shows, and this has never happened to me before.
We're playing a sold-out tour and everybody loves it, and they know every word.
That's just never happened to me, and it's amazing.
[Butch] Well, it kinda feels like... every show could be our last show in some way, so that kinda raises the bar a little bit.
[Shirley] But, yeah, I mean, who knows? I don't know what we're gonna do, I don't know what I want to do, I've still got to figure out.
I mean, the making of this record was unbearably frustrating on a multitude of levels, and, erm... I just don't know,
I'm gonna have to figure that out once we finish the tour.
And you know, really think about what we're gonna do next.
[Butch] And it could be our last tour, we don't know.
[Cameraman] In terms of a band what we're doing now?
[Duke] We're getting along alright.
[Cameraman] We're sitting next to each other, and seem to be getting along just fine.
[Duke] I sat around Butch whenever we were doing interviews, you know...
[Eric] Well, it seems like whatever... whatever stuff they were going through, they got to a place of some sort of a resolution...
Just.. I've seen no drama, I've seen no... even intra-band drama, or anything... so...
[Butch] Yeah, it's... the vibe is good...
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